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Science-Minded Believers Are Twice as Likely to Believe in Magic, Researchers Report October 15

Americans who trust science but still believe in God are twice as likely to believe in ghosts and curses, a 1,812-adult study reports October 15, 2026.

Bar chart: among Americans who believe in God, 40 percent of those who trust science over church teaching lean toward belief in magic, versus 19 percent of those who put religious teaching first.

Updated: October 15, 2026, 10:19 AM ET · Society desk

Quick answer

A study of 1,812 US adults published in Social Forces and explained by co-author Ruiqian Li in The Conversation on October 15, 2026, finds that Americans who trust science and reason over church teaching but still believe in God are about twice as likely to believe in magic such as ghosts and curses: 40 percent versus 19 percent. Among people who attend religious services the gap is 28 versus 19 percent. The authors conclude that magic thrives where individual rationality and spirituality meet.

Evidence
Verified

Among US adults who believe in God, 40 percent of those who agree with secular-rationalist statements lean toward belief in magic, versus 19 percent of those who do not.

Source/tradition: Froese, King and Li, 'The magic of secularization,' Social Forces, July 20, 2026; Ruiqian Li, The Conversation, October 15, 2026

Verified

Among people who attend religious services, the figures are 28 percent versus 19 percent; among those who never attend or do not believe in God, secular rationalism makes no difference.

Source/tradition: Ruiqian Li, The Conversation, October 15, 2026

Verified

The survey is the Baylor Religion Survey, fielded by Gallup in early 2025, with 1,812 adults; about 29 percent of US adults are religiously unaffiliated.

Source/tradition: Social Forces, July 20, 2026; Pew Research Center Religious Landscape Study, February 26, 2025

Traditional

The Hermetic and Renaissance magical traditions treated magic as a form of natural philosophy to be studied by the individual.

Source/tradition: Western esoteric tradition; interpretation by the editors

Not proven

Curses, ghosts or communication with the dead are real forces that affect a person's life.

Source/tradition: Belief surveyed, not tested; no scientific evidence

VERIFIED = verifiable in scientific or official sources · TRADITIONAL = historically or culturally recorded · LIVED PRACTICE = widely practiced, experiential knowledge · NOT PROVEN = spiritual interpretation, not scientifically established.

Americans who say science and reason matter more than their church's teachings, yet still believe in God or sit in a pew on Sunday, are the group most likely to believe in ghosts, curses and talking to the dead. That is the central finding of a study of 1,812 US adults by sociologists at Baylor University, Carson-Newman University and American University, published in the journal Social Forces and explained to the public for the first time by co-author Ruiqian Li in The Conversation on Thursday, October 15. Among people who believe in God, 40 percent of the science-minded leaned toward magic, against 19 percent of those who put religious teaching first.

What the study found

The paper, titled "The magic of secularization," draws on the latest wave of the Baylor Religion Survey, a nationally representative poll fielded by Gallup in early 2025. Its authors are Paul Froese of Baylor University, Isaiah King of Carson-Newman University and Ruiqian Li, a research assistant professor at American University's School of Public Affairs. Social Forces, published by Oxford University Press, released the paper online on July 20, 2026; Li's plain-language account appeared in The Conversation on October 15.

The researchers built a measure they call "secular rationalism" from four statements: that science is the only way to understand the world, that morality should rest on reason rather than religious teaching, and that people should interpret spiritual matters for themselves. They then asked about six beliefs that, in Li's words, "require no god or church," ranging from ghosts and curses to communicating with the dead, and separately about belief in miracles for comparison.

The expected result would have been a simple ladder: the more a person trusts science, the less they believe in anything supernatural. That is not what the data show. Among respondents who believe in God, those who also scored high on secular rationalism were about twice as likely to lean toward magic, 40 percent versus 19 percent. Among people who attend religious services, the gap was smaller but pointed the same way, 28 percent versus 19 percent. Among Americans who never attend services or who do not believe in God at all, secular rationalism made no difference to magical belief.

Who leans toward magic? Share of each group, Baylor Religion Survey 2025

"Magic" here means six beliefs that need no god or church, such as ghosts, curses and talking to the dead. "Science-minded" means agreeing with the study's four secular-rationalism statements.

Believe in God, science-minded · 40%

Believe in God, put religious teaching first · 19%

Attend services, science-minded · 28%

Attend services, put religious teaching first · 19%

Source: Froese, King and Li, "The magic of secularization," Social Forces, July 20, 2026, as reported by co-author Ruiqian Li in The Conversation, October 15, 2026. Survey of 1,812 US adults fielded by Gallup in early 2025. Bar length equals the percentage.

Two further numbers frame the finding. Roughly 18 percent of Americans both believe in God and agree with the secular-rationalist statements, so this is not a fringe group. Fewer than 1 percent reject both God and secular rationalism. Li connects the pattern to the wider religious landscape: according to the Pew Research Center's Religious Landscape Study, published in February 2025, about 29 percent of US adults have no religious affiliation, but only 5 percent call themselves atheists, and most of the unaffiliated say their religion is "nothing in particular" while still believing in something beyond the natural world.

The study 1,812 US adults · Baylor Religion Survey, fielded by Gallup, early 2025 · Social Forces, online July 20, 2026
The claim Belief in magic is strongest where scientific thinking and residual religion overlap, not where either one is absent
The limit One snapshot in time; it cannot show whether these Americans are leaving church, returning or staying put

The authors' explanation is that magic, unlike organized religion, needs no congregation, clergy or theology. A person who distrusts institutions but still senses something beyond the material world can hold on to ghosts or curses without asking anyone's permission. Li writes that the pattern may help explain why younger Americans, who distrust institutions most, appear in the data as likely to hold both magical and secular-rationalist views at once, while adding that researchers "still know little about how magical beliefs spread among young Americans."

What it means spiritually

Facts first: this is a survey of what Americans say they believe, not evidence that curses work or that the dead can be reached. Everything below is interpretation.

The finding will not surprise anyone who has worked in the Western esoteric tradition. Hermeticism, the Golden Dawn and the Renaissance magicians all treated magic as a kind of applied natural philosophy, something to be studied, tested and refined by the individual rather than received from a priest. "As above, so below" is a hypothesis about the structure of the world, and the people who held it were often the same people building telescopes and cataloguing plants. Seen that way, the survey describes a very old American type: the person who reads the science pages, keeps a loose faith, and still salts the doorway. Our guide to chaos magic covers the modern school that made "belief as a tool" its central method, and if the word curse in this story made you check your own luck, read our honest checklist on whether you have been cursed before you spend a dollar.

What you can do now

  • Read the source, not the headline. Li's article in The Conversation is free. The 40 percent applies to believers who score high on secular rationalism, not to all Americans.
  • Ask yourself the four questions. Is science the only way to understand the world? Should morality rest on reason? Should you interpret spiritual matters yourself? Where you land tells you which group in this survey you resemble.
  • Separate practice from proof. You can light a candle, pull a card or honor your dead because the ritual steadies you, without claiming the study proves anything about results. It does not.
  • Keep your skepticism switched on. The same independence that lets people hold magic without a church also makes them targets for paid "curse removal." Our twelve red flags before you pay anyone still apply.
  • Watch for the follow-up. The authors say a study following the same people over time is the next step; we will report it here.

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Sources

  • Ruiqian Li, "Americans who go to church and trust science are also more likely to believe in ghosts and curses, new research shows," The Conversation, October 15, 2026. theconversation.com
  • Paul Froese, Isaiah King and Ruiqian Li, "The magic of secularization," Social Forces, advance article published July 20, 2026, doi:10.1093/sf/soag097. doi.org/10.1093/sf/soag097
  • Pew Research Center, "Decline of Christianity in the U.S. Has Slowed, May Have Leveled Off," Religious Landscape Study, February 26, 2025. pewresearch.org
  • Baylor Religion Survey, Baylor University Institute for Studies of Religion. baylorreligionsurvey.research.baylor.edu
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Cover image: the study's key figures, drawn by Temple of Desire from numbers reported in The Conversation on October 15, 2026. The spiritual readings in this article are tradition and lived practice, not scientifically proven.

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